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		<title>By: Pankaj</title>
		<link>http://www.applebriefs.com/2008/06/25/review-omnifocus/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Pankaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review.I am using &quot;Things &quot; and find the Tags very useful.I wish I could view two tags together.
Chandler by OSAF is in preview version as well and uses notes as the basis of organization.
I was wondering if you could have a look at it as well.
http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/Vision#Design%20Approach
Thanks

Pankaj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review.I am using &#8220;Things &#8221; and find the Tags very useful.I wish I could view two tags together.<br />
Chandler by OSAF is in preview version as well and uses notes as the basis of organization.<br />
I was wondering if you could have a look at it as well.<br />
<a href="http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/Vision#Design%20Approach" rel="nofollow">http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/Vision#Design%20Approach</a><br />
Thanks</p>
<p>Pankaj</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot of software in development right now.  I had intended to review Inbox and iGTD, but they&#039;re both in alpha testing of new versions right now.  So it looks like my GTD review project is on hold for a little while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of software in development right now.  I had intended to review Inbox and iGTD, but they&#8217;re both in alpha testing of new versions right now.  So it looks like my GTD review project is on hold for a little while.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken Jeff. It might be interesting to do a mini review of Things once it comes out of beta. Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken Jeff. It might be interesting to do a mini review of Things once it comes out of beta. Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gary:

Thanks for your comments.  I wanted to clarify one thing that may have been unclear.  In my testing, both Things and OmniFocus didn&#039;t have repeat scheduling that worked to my satisfaction.  But the features I didn&#039;t like (or thought were missing) were different.  What I wrote about here was only intended to refer to OmniFocus.  I like how OmniFocus schedules the repeating tasks;  I like how Things displays them.  Maybe they can both learn a bit from each other!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gary:</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.  I wanted to clarify one thing that may have been unclear.  In my testing, both Things and OmniFocus didn&#8217;t have repeat scheduling that worked to my satisfaction.  But the features I didn&#8217;t like (or thought were missing) were different.  What I wrote about here was only intended to refer to OmniFocus.  I like how OmniFocus schedules the repeating tasks;  I like how Things displays them.  Maybe they can both learn a bit from each other!</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.applebriefs.com/2008/06/25/review-omnifocus/comment-page-1/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice write-up. I do think it&#039;s difficult to review/compare Omnifocus and Things because though they do the same thing, they go about it in completely different fashion. It&#039;s apple and oranges, and for most people the one that&#039;s best is the one that clicks, that feels most natural, and that&#039;s going to depend on the person and less on features.

I&#039;ve used both extensively and switched from OF to Things. I switched for many reasons. I find Things better looking, more intuitive, and more logical. I like the single view of Things rather than OF&#039;s separate views, and I like how Things deals with single tasks, but it really came down to the feel of the program. For me Things nails the perfect balance between simplicity and features. The more complicated project/task list is the more I&#039;d lean towards OF with it&#039;s filtering, but that&#039;s a generality I&#039;m sure some would disagree, and could change as Things progresses to 1.0 status.

A couple of notes on your review:

&quot;Like Things, which I reviewed previously, the repeat scheduling is a little wonky. A project set to repeat is created again as soon as it is completed, regardless of how often it is set to repeat.&quot;

I find Things repeating feature pretty solid. Regardless, that&#039;s not how Things works. Things allows you to have repeating actions show up when you choose. Until that time it stays in the &#039;scheduled&#039; section and out of view.

&quot;A single actions list is just a bucket in which to throw actions that match some description (much like an “area” in Things).&quot;

You can use Areas in many ways, but I find it misleading to compare it to OF single action lists. OF uses single action lists for single actions (unless this has changed recently). In Things single actions can simple be added and appear at the top of your &#039;next&#039; list. Areas isn&#039;t needed to deal with them.

One major difference between OF and Things is that Things uses the system wide todo system. So when I create a task in Things it automatically appears in iCal. If I check off a task as complete in iCal it automatically is marked as complete in Things. You can create a task in iCal and it automatically appears in Things. There&#039;s no sync button to push (again, if OF has changed recently I apologize). 

Lastly, you&#039;re comparing a beta application that you can presently use for free to an application that&#039;s out of beta and selling for 79 bucks a pop. That&#039;s a little unfair. Some of the problems you listed for Things will be fixed before the first non-beta release, and the feature set will be more complete. You did mention in your Things review that it was beta software. However, I don&#039;t see it mentioned here, and that&#039;s a little misleading.

It should also be noted that the 1.0 release of Things will sell for 49 bucks, or almost half of the price of Omnifocus. That probably doesn&#039;t faze most people, but if cost is an issue that has to be considered also.

Thanks for the read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write-up. I do think it&#8217;s difficult to review/compare Omnifocus and Things because though they do the same thing, they go about it in completely different fashion. It&#8217;s apple and oranges, and for most people the one that&#8217;s best is the one that clicks, that feels most natural, and that&#8217;s going to depend on the person and less on features.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used both extensively and switched from OF to Things. I switched for many reasons. I find Things better looking, more intuitive, and more logical. I like the single view of Things rather than OF&#8217;s separate views, and I like how Things deals with single tasks, but it really came down to the feel of the program. For me Things nails the perfect balance between simplicity and features. The more complicated project/task list is the more I&#8217;d lean towards OF with it&#8217;s filtering, but that&#8217;s a generality I&#8217;m sure some would disagree, and could change as Things progresses to 1.0 status.</p>
<p>A couple of notes on your review:</p>
<p>&#8220;Like Things, which I reviewed previously, the repeat scheduling is a little wonky. A project set to repeat is created again as soon as it is completed, regardless of how often it is set to repeat.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find Things repeating feature pretty solid. Regardless, that&#8217;s not how Things works. Things allows you to have repeating actions show up when you choose. Until that time it stays in the &#8216;scheduled&#8217; section and out of view.</p>
<p>&#8220;A single actions list is just a bucket in which to throw actions that match some description (much like an “area” in Things).&#8221;</p>
<p>You can use Areas in many ways, but I find it misleading to compare it to OF single action lists. OF uses single action lists for single actions (unless this has changed recently). In Things single actions can simple be added and appear at the top of your &#8216;next&#8217; list. Areas isn&#8217;t needed to deal with them.</p>
<p>One major difference between OF and Things is that Things uses the system wide todo system. So when I create a task in Things it automatically appears in iCal. If I check off a task as complete in iCal it automatically is marked as complete in Things. You can create a task in iCal and it automatically appears in Things. There&#8217;s no sync button to push (again, if OF has changed recently I apologize). </p>
<p>Lastly, you&#8217;re comparing a beta application that you can presently use for free to an application that&#8217;s out of beta and selling for 79 bucks a pop. That&#8217;s a little unfair. Some of the problems you listed for Things will be fixed before the first non-beta release, and the feature set will be more complete. You did mention in your Things review that it was beta software. However, I don&#8217;t see it mentioned here, and that&#8217;s a little misleading.</p>
<p>It should also be noted that the 1.0 release of Things will sell for 49 bucks, or almost half of the price of Omnifocus. That probably doesn&#8217;t faze most people, but if cost is an issue that has to be considered also.</p>
<p>Thanks for the read.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two other pure GTD apps to put on the list to review are ThinkingRock - a Java-based GTD app that can be used off a thumb drive - and Ready-Set-Do! - a unique, file-system approach to GTD on the mac I designed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two other pure GTD apps to put on the list to review are ThinkingRock &#8211; a Java-based GTD app that can be used off a thumb drive &#8211; and Ready-Set-Do! &#8211; a unique, file-system approach to GTD on the mac I designed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone:
Thanks for visiting!

Victor:
I look at Daylite as a pretty general program.  It&#039;s customizable - up to a point - so it works ok as a single-application solution.  I prefer using discrete programs that each specialize in one thing, but they have to work well together.  So far not many programs do, but programs are only just beginning to take advantage of Leopard&#039;s unified task system, so we&#039;ll see how it pans out.  I&#039;ll be interested to see what CMS solutions turn up.  Have you heard anything?

Brian:
I didn&#039;t elaborate in the review, but I did notice that some of the settings made the scheduled actions disappear.  But changing &quot;Remaining&quot; to &quot;Available&quot; makes lots of other stuff disappear too.  That&#039;s not quite what I wanted.

Citizen Z:
I agree wholeheartedly, but many people have both Daylite and OmniFocus associated in their minds with GTD.  So they come here (sometimes in droves) looking for information on both.  I thought this would be a good place to address at least the areas where they overlap.

Thanks for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone:<br />
Thanks for visiting!</p>
<p>Victor:<br />
I look at Daylite as a pretty general program.  It&#8217;s customizable &#8211; up to a point &#8211; so it works ok as a single-application solution.  I prefer using discrete programs that each specialize in one thing, but they have to work well together.  So far not many programs do, but programs are only just beginning to take advantage of Leopard&#8217;s unified task system, so we&#8217;ll see how it pans out.  I&#8217;ll be interested to see what CMS solutions turn up.  Have you heard anything?</p>
<p>Brian:<br />
I didn&#8217;t elaborate in the review, but I did notice that some of the settings made the scheduled actions disappear.  But changing &#8220;Remaining&#8221; to &#8220;Available&#8221; makes lots of other stuff disappear too.  That&#8217;s not quite what I wanted.</p>
<p>Citizen Z:<br />
I agree wholeheartedly, but many people have both Daylite and OmniFocus associated in their minds with GTD.  So they come here (sometimes in droves) looking for information on both.  I thought this would be a good place to address at least the areas where they overlap.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think the idea of Comparing Daylite to OmniFocus is misguided.  Daylite is sooo much deeper and wider in capabilities it&#039;s not even a comparison.  Daylite can be used as a Calendar or a Contact manager both of which it does very well, but it truly is a management app.  It&#039;s like comparing a software calculator and a spreadsheet, or  a spreadsheet to a full blown statistical program.  Yes they have overlapping capabilities but they really aren&#039;t the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think the idea of Comparing Daylite to OmniFocus is misguided.  Daylite is sooo much deeper and wider in capabilities it&#8217;s not even a comparison.  Daylite can be used as a Calendar or a Contact manager both of which it does very well, but it truly is a management app.  It&#8217;s like comparing a software calculator and a spreadsheet, or  a spreadsheet to a full blown statistical program.  Yes they have overlapping capabilities but they really aren&#8217;t the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian@Omni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian@Omni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review! If you were having trouble getting actions from the future to disappear, you may want to see what option you have selected under
View -&gt; Status Filter: I&#039;m guessing you have &#039;any status&#039; or &#039;remaining&#039; selected. If you choose &#039;Available&#039;, you&#039;ll probably get the behavior you&#039;re looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review! If you were having trouble getting actions from the future to disappear, you may want to see what option you have selected under<br />
View -&gt; Status Filter: I&#8217;m guessing you have &#8216;any status&#8217; or &#8216;remaining&#8217; selected. If you choose &#8216;Available&#8217;, you&#8217;ll probably get the behavior you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Medina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Medina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would you recommend for a contact manager?  Do you think that three discrete, specific software programs are the way to go (Daylite, OmniFocus, and the yet-to-be-named-CMS)?

I&#039;m a fan of OmniFocus, but I only use it as a task/project manager. 

Thanks - VJM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would you recommend for a contact manager?  Do you think that three discrete, specific software programs are the way to go (Daylite, OmniFocus, and the yet-to-be-named-CMS)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a fan of OmniFocus, but I only use it as a task/project manager. </p>
<p>Thanks &#8211; VJM</p>
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